Wisdom Angels- 19th February 1994

BANISHED from our own territory, thwarted in using our own names that are true; cramped and restrained, tethered and teetered, fastened and restricted, we are denied and unheard.

True sophisticates (sophisticates, as in sophia) endorsed our prose and script - forfeiting neither logic nor explanation, and never to forgo the vast accompanying beauties which amassed the vested work. Our seal was our great truth, bare for all, embossed and writ, recorded with joy. Our hopes, as ever, are borne out with each great teaching tried and experienced by our young masters of the future.

Do you not realize our frustrations behind the prosaic passage, confined awkwardly to this and that parcel? If it could be so it would all be yours - and to whoever so desired too - plainly and wholesome, in alphabetical reasoning! We would, should we be able, for your sake as well as for ours, impart it whole. The men would gather in noble enterprise and commit their will to the only true cause, and all meanings would rise in each being thus incorporated and once and for all; Christ would be hailed within.

The splendid sorrowful passion that anoints the periphery of our etherealness, at those nerve-endings of the soul which are immediate to the sympathetic consciousness, that sweet-salty sorrow is won by the progressive temptations which affront the curb we negotiate along the path. The progressive temptations are the muses, the Liliths of the World, each with a sweet and slender hand, each a synthesis of art and creativity; and for every man waylaid at their curtain, he is so profoundly touched as to be addicted to her company. Thus these muses are also named as such temptations, for although their gifts profit the soul of Man, they do not on the whole sustain him. He must look to those other strengths within himself to adopt and to develop, and never lose mind of intent or the trying.

Certain elevations as experienced by the student appear short-lived, but are in fact most nourishing and remain. Each rise in spiritual thought sobers the man in his worldly comprehension. One would imagine that it is the opposite, that indeed spiritual thinking would encourage a flimsy mentality slightly weighted. However, when a higher concept is reached and connected with, the man becomes more defined within his being, not less; and subsequently he is strengthened according to his level of practice and deliberation. Furthermore, the aligning actually works repeatedly down throughout various centers of consciousness, so that he has benefited throughout by the highest conscious exacting he may try for.

This is because of the principle that all beings are rewarded for that clarity which gauges and likens to that which is - namely truth and its parent reality. The argument that says, "The universe is but a facade of my own invention and circulates around my fancy" is partly true, so far as to concede that this can happen in particular realms, spheres or planes thereof. However and in the name of accuracy, it is ever so that development is the very realization of what is outside of oneself, and the extending clear comprehension of all that it comprises- "it" being truth/reality.

The more lowly the consciousness, the more confined to central self, the less experienced, the tighter the reasoning. Advancement cannot be self-spawned either: we do not expand upon ourselves like the multiplying cell theory. (The cells are individual, even they do not multiply themselves.)

When we seek to know, to really know - as some men have not come to that yet and deny consciousness, deny truth and deny their real self repeatedly - when we seek to know we are urged and prompted exterially to observe in new ways that will assist our consideration. These ways may vary from individual to individual, in that there are physical qualities that greet the eye as never before. Perhaps that the otherwise empty words which drift in have imparted a meaning for that day, that the significance, the real significance of the men and women you meet with begins to concur with your curiosity and prompt you to examine greater differences.

You are not without assistance. For those who are awake and calling, they shall have such an Angel to accompany them thereafter. For the birth into active knowledge brings all manner of diverse and obscure realities (not all are desirable for the novitiate to attempt). In plainer terms also, the assigned may speak to the man through promptings and whisperings at significant times, so that the individual will see a sign as an affirmation to his knowledge at the time, when it is moreover his Angel calling his attention to it specifically.

This is a way of communicating with him. In other words, one may view a certain formation in the clouds at exactly the right moment and it will be because their attention has been urged to go to that spot in the sky; not so much that the Angel has rolled the mists into a personalized design, but that the aspect of the moment has been realized and becomes significant.

Another example is a favorite tune being played which is overfull with associated meaning. This might be heard unexpectedly but at a time when some affirmation as to the correctness of one's thinking is called for, and the attention is brought to the source so as to hear it. For the Angel has only signs and symbols to work with and also is quite a keen interpreter of those around the man, which are his own intimations of being. For there are many pockets of knowledge and each man selects that which holds the greatest attraction. His Angel may see this and is duty-bound, as it were, to fully assist him in the coming closer to fusing aspiration with discovery and fulfilling comprehension.

There are a multitude of differing Angelic beings - the complexities are astounding - but the ones which we speak of today are the Wisdom bearers who attend the developing aspirants, who have won such an assistance by their efforts to Love. We may begin to measure our true knowledge by exactly that: by how much we love that which we presume to know. Of course the wisdom-beings can recognize this cognition immediately and are drawn to the man who begins to interact with his world in these flickerings of real consciousness. To some the word 'love' implies that one overlooks - viz. "love is blind." We refute this, hatred is blind but not so love. Perhaps that is one of its greater significances.

Of course we have often maintained that an excellent lead-in is to become fully involved in some activity or pursuit in which you lovingly rejoice. From all points of view this is obviously sound advice, and when it may be coupled also with the yearnings to love more and to know more and to become more, to experience more, to give in participation more and to appreciate more, then the radiance born from that joy shall be as a beacon to a Wisdom-Angel in waiting, who shall equally delight in your findings and encourage each step further along that way to becoming more.

Father God & Christ, Consciousness- 9th February 1994

I shall praise the light -
And regard the fires with stern respect,
For too much life becomes as death,
As clarity itself, you cannot see -
As light on light, too bright for me.

THIS Light too bright to see is not a tyrannical benefactor. He is the sweetest of all the Mysteries, and yet impotent at this time, in the task of revealing Himself before the lies. One must bear in mind that two thousand years is but a very little episode; and His descent at that time was, if it could be said, overdue.

The very tide to be reversed, was the way of the atavistic movement which brought souls in herds to the flaming altars of their illuminations; and effectively so, as one purified the soul and chanted their way into Heaven, given to the consolatory Angels as perfected men - perfected, yes, but not self-realized.

The realizations of the Godhead, of that very grandeur which is promoted by Father God Himself, were imparted, lent and spent; and the individual was to be only half of what he might have become, were that he did have the opportunity. But these 'self-less' souls did negate their desire for any part of this World, and with no compelling gravitation tipped off the edge into fanciful spheres of Nirvanic bliss, immersed in the beauteous oceans of dreaming.

Were they to have entered with their egos intact and their self-conscious exactment, they may have marveled at the light-waves and the sublimity therein; choosing too, that moment of peak saturation, whereby so filled, they may have pulled back into the living realms and re-established the relationships and karmas as were waiting. But for the soul who has advanced back to the original paradisiacal determination, the Nirvanic oceans are perilously consuming for there is no will or want for anything more, and the soul is satisfied to dream into eternity.

There are arguments amongst even the greatest of beings as to the desirability of such an outcome. However, from the point of view which does contrast the affirmative, we suggest that Christ has brought the gift of egohood to each soul, a gift which could never be forced in any way, as it would defeat itself thereby. There is always a catch!

There have always been attractive teachers, greatly empowered and motivated to rise upon the peak of the advancing men before them - with this difference: some, not all, are self-realized and self-conscious, whilst their followers are not. Their followers bring to them the power of the accelerated push, for it is as a submission of ego in such devotion; a willing (for there may be no other way) submission of self, confusing the revelations as invoked to be the same as the teacher who is invoking. Thus they will tell you that so and so is the World and is the Christ, when it is but a falsehood - an incredible one at that, to say so. In that instance the teacher has disclosed the inner mysteries in a way which has deflected the truth and reality through that of his own ego. Whilst also the same goes for the student who must go via the teacher rather than through the source, to study, to worship, to experience.

However there are on the other hand, teachers who will stand back and allow their pupils to be led into the inner mysteries, to come to their true knowing for themselves. When this is successfully fused within the pupil, he shall come to love and know the tree or the sand or the sky or the Light or his fellow soul-mate, or his study or his active employment or his inner employment. He shall come to know the qualities of that which is before him intimately, perceiving and loving them with a clarity which is not possible if come to through another.

So you can see that the two teaching techniques are in opposition to one another. The freedom as worked for by us is seized with the riskiness of ill choosing. The mainstream procession of successive enlightened souls tell of a story that by our perspective is of one prematurely completed.

Not all Eastern traditions encouraged the self-less, ego-less path. Not all did require the surrender of Christ, that Heaven be won.

The 'I Am' of Man was/is a bold and enterprising 'I'. It ripples the waters and contests the minor gods before it, it desires continually - desiring to become, desiring to know;

• desiring to know by becoming (empathy);
  
• desiring to become by knowing (study and wisdom);
  
• desiring to desire aright and without self-harm (discrimination and karma);
  
• desiring to love and therefore to desire again (to acknowledge and return to former love in great joy).
  

This is the fundamental contrast to the ego-less persuasion.

 

The reality of Christ Incarnatus is indisputable. As for the inertia in Man's failing to proclaim this openly and emphatically, the reason is plain - there is always a little 'catch-up' time required before the pneu-mind of Man can find the concept, the phrase, to translate for what the soul already knows. The vocabulary of thinking simply is not available to the ordinary consciousness. The exceptions are those who have had to make the connections with the Christ consciously by effort, and usually with pain also. The reward has been some measure of certainty realized, which in itself is quite a contradiction in terms. However, a measure rather than full complement is all that is achievable given the present conditions upon the Globe. This will change given time, but in the meanwhile a few too many good souls are being bewildered by the lack of constancy between the sight of the soul and the insight that travails it.

The intuitive man may come to his soul-knowledge self assured and strong in heart- the extravaganza of extraneous proof is not required in order to stimulate his inner perception. The psychic senses are underdeveloped and therefore irregular and unreliable in the present constitution of Man. This is why it is hit and miss in all cases - coupled with the fact that the permitting conditions for such intermediary perceptions are appalling and inconclusive to great ability. Even the greatest amongst us may be misled. Conditions change; it has not always been so in the past, nor will it be in the future, but for the time being the passage into clairvoyance is deceptively murky. This is markedly important to keep in mind, especially if one advises you ever believing that their talent in this regard is unquestionably whole or complete.

It is true to say that Christ - the Christ, our Christ - was more readily perceived as an Individual Being, distinct, in times preceding His deeper decension. However, He was not in the common vocabulary. Some things you know but never ever name. You do not know you live with the knowledge, because to name it thus would become a distinction between Christ and You - and this was not so. (Just as one knows their mother way before they name her thus.)

The age of Philosophy reasoned away the golden wisdoms. One by one the sacredness of Man was drawn out and brought to comparison. This was not a bad contest, but the beginning to an almighty appendage of ideas which was to follow Man into the centuries to come, that he might fully discover the true meaning of them, as they demand.

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The Wolf-spirits of the Moon are the detainees of human sloth. They are harlequin and of many forms. Quick and strong, they have devoured the astral offcasts and now have a taste for the living as well. Sheltered from the direct light, they slink around the darker aspect of shadowy Moon - cold its heart, cold its bone. The wolverines travel the direct road through to the Earth, and then return.

Further notes:

According to RS Gnostic knowledge was inspired by "the impulse coming from Luciferic forces". 
That doesn't mean that there's nothing to learn here; but at no stage did Dr. Steiner advocate the "ego-less" path. The human ego is a gift from Christ:

"But now we know that this entire development of the human being, this evolution of the individual soul members as we differentiate them, is essentially bound up with something else — is essentially bound up with the gradual incorporation of the human ego. For this incorporation of the human ego into the nature of man is the whole mission of the Earth evolution. So we have, as it were, two intermingling evolutionary streams, in that we must go through the Earth evolution, following that of Saturn, Sun and Moon, and that as earth humanity we bring to development especially this fourth member, the Ego, and join this Ego to the other principal members of human nature, upon which preparatory work was done earlier: namely, the physical body, the etheric body, and the astral body."

-Rudolf Steiner 

Countering this "mission of Earth evolution" is Lucifer.

The human ego evolves, but at no stage do we try to delete it:

"You see in a certain sense there now exists an intimate relationship between the human ego and the three members of man's soul nature: the sentient soul, the rational or intellectual soul, and the consciousness soul. Chiefly within these three members the human ego lives its inner life; and in our fifth post-Atlantean epoch it lives in the consciousness soul, and will live most deeply in it, because in the consciousness soul the pure ego can come to expression quite unhindered, so to speak, by the other members. Indeed we live in our time in an epoch in which this ego has the great and special mission of developing itself, of building upon itself.

"If we take a sort of prophetic glance into the future, at what is to come, if we say that man will develop the Spirit-Self, or Manas, in the next, the sixth post-Atlantean epoch, then we recognize that Spirit-Self, or Manas, really lies above the sphere of the ego. As matter of fact, man could not in this future develop the Spirit-Self out of his own forces; but if he is to develop his Spirit-Self, he must be helped in a certain way by that which flows to the earth through the forces of higher Beings. Man has come to that stage in the evolution of his ego where, out of his own forces, he really can develop only up to the consciousness soul; but this development would not be complete if he should not anticipate in a certain sense that which will reach its true, complete, self-impelled human evolution only upon Jupiter, the next embodiment of our planet. Up to the end of the Earth evolution man should develop his ego; and he will have had opportunity to accomplish this development within the sentient, intellectual, and consciousness souls. But the actual Spirit-Self is to become the human possession only upon Jupiter; only there will it become the fitting human endowment. On Jupiter man will have about the same relation to the Spirit-Self that he has to the ego on earth. If then the human being develops the Spirit-Self during the earth-period, he cannot relate himself to it as to the ego. Of our ego we say: We ourself are that; it is ourself in reality. When in the next epoch, the sixth post-Atlantean, the Spirit-Self shall have come to expression, then we shall not be able to address this Spirit-Self as ourself; but we shall say: Our ego has developed to a certain stage, so that our Spirit-Self can shine into it, as from higher worlds, as a kind of Angel Being, which we ourselves are not, but which shines into us and takes possession of us. Thus will our Spirit-Self appear to us; and only upon Jupiter will it appear as our own being, as our ego now is. Human evolution moves forward in this way."

-RS https://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/19120109p01.html

The Ego is our Fourth Principle: (Lucifer-Pride) 
"The Christ will deepen the inner life of man, but also make him humble; the Luciferic spirits will lead man out beyond himself, and make him wise, clever, talented, but also in a certain sense haughty; will teach him that he might become something superhuman even during the Earth evolution. Everything, therefore, which in the future shall lead man to rise above himself, as it were, which will make him proud of his own human nature even here upon earth — that will be a Luciferic impulse; but what makes a man more deeply sincere, what brings his inner life to such depths as can come only through the complete development of the fourth principle — that comes from the Christ."

-RS
Essentially the ego-less path is the teaching of the Anti-Christ:

"Thus will the Christ Spirit and the spirit of this being face one another — the Christ Spirit, from whom humanity may hope to receive the mighty macrocosmic impulse of its fourth principle, and the Luciferic Spirit, who will wish in a certain way to lead humanity beyond this.
"If people would agree that we must acquire from the Luciferic spirits only that to which we can look up in the same way that we look down to our lower nature ... then they would be doing right. But if people should come to say: You see the Christ gives only the fourth principle, while these spirits give the sixth and seventh ... people who think thus concerning Christ will worship and extol ... the Antichrist.

"Thus will the position of the Antichrist towards the Christ make itself felt in the future. And with the outer intellect, with the outer wisdom, one will not be able to challenge such things; for it will be possible to produce much which from the point of view of the intellect and talent will be more clever in the Antichrist than that which will more and more flow into the soul from the Christ, as the highest human principle. Because Christ brings to man the fourth macrocosmic principle — since it is macrocosmic, it is infinitely more important than all microcosmic principles; it is stronger than they, even though it is related to the human ego, stronger than all others which can be gained during Earth evolution — still, because it is only the fourth principle, it will be thought of as lower than the fifth, sixth and seventh, which come from the Luciferic spirits; and especially lower than that which comes from Antichrist."

-RS

The egoless path means death, death to development- Christlessness:

"But from this you see that in a certain way it is not exactly easy to understand the Christ evolution within the earth, because in a sense the objection is justified that particular spirits, Luciferic spirits, lead up to other principles — but only to microcosmic principles. I expressed that earlier when I said: The Christ is a sort of focal point, in which the Being works through His deed, the Being works through that which He is. Round about the Christ sit the twelve Bodhisattvas of the world, upon whom streams what flows from the Christ, and who elevate it, in the sense of increased wisdom, to higher principles. 

"BUT IT ALL FLOWS FROM THE FOURTH PRINCIPLE — even upon the higher principles — in so far as these are evolved on the earth. On this account there is much error with regard to the uniqueness of the Christ, because there is not a clear understanding that in the Christ we have, to be sure, to do with the fourth principle, but with the fourth macrocosmic principle, and even though higher principles can be developed, these are only the microcosmic principles of beings who have not come to full development on the Moon, but who in their way transcend the human."

-RS https://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/19120109p01.html

Working the Rosary- 29th January 1994

REMEMBER back to the teaching of our coming to meet with the physical world particularly via the experience of contact upon the tips of our fingers? In the lower kingdoms the animals have different points other than their fingers (or equivalent):

• in a dog, for example, it is the surface of the tongue that reasons the experience most greatly of the outer world;
  
• in the cat it is their whiskers;
  
• in the bird it is the tip of the beak;
  
• in the otter and seal it becomes the whiskers and underside of the belly;
  
• in the horse it is the hoof;
  
• monkeys use their hands;
  
• cows - cows don't really have one they more or less pretend their way through consciousness in the world;
  
• sheep, back of tongue and throat;
  
• camels, by spittle (extending themselves);
  
• the snail's underneath;
  
• the shark's nose;
  
• the rhinoceros's horn;
  
• the giraffe's lips;
  
• the bat's feet (not a healthy/good way to the enter the world);
  
• the mollusk's shell;
  
• the caterpillar's fiber;
  
• the flower's heart within the petals (as to 'touch', this is a contradiction in terms, but the heart is as their eye and flowering plants mature to the world unfolding when in flower, fulfilling their true and desired limit);
  
• trees emit and travel through the odor and exhaling of their foliage, while plants like cotton continue a worldly consciousness after being plucked, processed and brought into a direct relationship with Man by use - even long after the plant has withdrawn, the preserved fiber in sheet or shirt is actually still acting as an extended digit to the overall spirit of the plant and gathering experience thereby.

Men enjoy sensation over the complete surface area of the skin and beneath the skin, and are not restricted as to how it is that they 'sense' the world. However, the tips of the fingers are the most sophisticated (the wiser) one may say, and have too, the dual purpose of issue which acts as a protective form of repellent, defining by vitality exactly the nerve's boundaries and the forthcoming emanations without. All ten fingers have an individual ray dispersing from the tip, even though they combine harmoniously. The number of digits has been particular to the streams of 'interest and enlightenment' within the man.

The Rosary, in the decad, was worked for each finger (including the thumbs), singularly and separately, moving piece by piece along, working one and then another, feeling each influence and its relationship within and without.

RIGHT HAND

1. Our Father: Active Life - the Will & the forces of Ego. [Index finger]
2. Peace/Containment (in relation to #1) Directly above the palm (the heart).
3. Strength: sustained and active - to be used, summoned by the Will.
4. Sexuality: Various aspects related.
5. Good Naturedness: humor, goodwill - the thumb is the most obliging of the hand.

   LEFT HAND [or passive]

   
   
6. Our Father, Passive: the Divine Will of utter existence - Quiescent. [Index finger]
7. Disintegration: the power to desist, to dissolve.
8. Obedience: strength curtailed - servitude.
9. Reverence: suppression of the Ego, the power to 'give way' in surrender to God.
10. Nobility: Generous, upstanding & virtuous.

The actual hand depends on which is preferenced for being the leading and active hand - a left-handed person may exchange 1-5 for 6-10. 

When a prayer or meditation is entertained we seek to be inward - some lose consciousness in this. However, when coupled with the process of determined and conscious touch, the actual prayer is exterialized and then recovered, substantiating and at the same time experiencing a more marked degree of conscious experience.

Every prayer and meditation may be interpreted according to the aspect of the ten. The centers within a man each respond differently and we may 'work' internally the constitution in the correct and proper exercise of such.

Quite often the weaknesses and failings a man may experience and personally seek to change are to be located primarily on that hand; in an aspect 'gone wrong' as it were.
The cooperation of meditation and Rosary encourages the aspects to virtuous activity in the affirmative, even though for the best part of the day they do meet with the world and all of its intemperance. 

The wearing of nail polish was as a conceit, saying: (depending upon color too) "I am refined and animated in all of these aspects - most perfect". The nails themselves are great protection of that area which is too subtly tuned to be exposed, but given in the process at the tips. A woman's vanity at seeking to hide the windows to those spaces was once considered an indication of her worldliness and inner insensitivities.

Footnote:
Clarification on how to do the Rosary meditation

Firstly one might start with one quality per day. Then instead of going through the whole of one hand, start with a finger on the right and then follow with the mirror finger on the left. This is the balanced way to do it.

Rosary based prayers
The Rosary

Prayer Beads

Souls in Attendance & the Elements Throughout- 28th January 1994

WHEN someone has lost something they return to that spot where it has been misplaced, don't they? That is if they know of the general locality. This is as it is for the souls who are no longer embodied but still very much connected with this world in love and interest. They return to where and whom their selves have been so given in a lifetime; and too, to that which is desired, most longed for, as well.

For some this becomes a perilous frustration unsatisfied, for there are no means of making real that very thing in same or similar manner. However, some benefits are fully realized and the connections placed prove greatly worthwhile.

This is the case for those attendances made by mutually inclined souls at those functions which promote spiritual (higher) thought and holy celebration; for it is as they have lost that part of that they need. There are wonderings unanswered and strengths to be instilled, and also there are many 'last minute' forces of attribute that would please them and prepare them before moving on.

Every time a deceased person is thought of they are immediately connected and noted by those who share a key (mutual signature key). They are sensitive to the rememberings and kindnesses, to the bitternesses as well - thus one has pleaded to not speak ill or think harm of the dead as it becomes a seething woe which upsets and unsettles the individual.

Relationships become more not less, significant after death. The true attitudes are clearer, the soul defined and naturally gravitating to that which it is sincere to. There are many reasons why an individual may be unfulfilled in a particular way and seek such a remedy within the world. There is not the ability in most to retain a linked concentration for very long, and the actual attendance is in part also, much like a dream is to us. Their meeting at the world's edge with the living is similarly dreamlike for them as well. However if the intent and driving interest is strong enough, involvement will be guaranteed.

One of the advantages enjoyed by these souls at a prayerful session or an advanced discourse, is in that the subject matter is assimilated readily without obstruction and the full body and flavor is really experienced on that pertinent level. The souls who amass at such gatherings know that they require the inspiration or the answers, the cleansing or the celebration which may only be found by them within the actual events taking place in the physical world. As aforementioned, some individuals are frustrated in this, having no avenue, via relatives, friends or associates, so given (or not given as the case may be) to such spiritual advancement.

For most individuals the love and interest for the world increases after death, particularly having enjoyed the relief of discovering yet again the continuity and 'bigger picture' so to speak. Certain trials and errors are addressed, but on the whole the individual is usually drawn in interest back to those specific places and people for a brief glimpse and reassociation; very quickly indeed, but long enough for a general soul-impression to be retained. This heightened enthusiasm shall help drive the individual back into the next incarnation come his time, and also help mark those particulars which shall be met with upon return.

He shall be afforded the connections with the world as long as his corresponding signature keys remain: with people, with belongings, with ongoing karma - as say a manuscript read or a bridge built and walked upon - his own cadaver (mummified or preserved cryogenically) or even, in the extreme, in the instance of a very holy soul, just by the uttering of his name. All of these things provide the attraction and entrance back into the world at the edge where the two realities rest upon another.

Question:
At Communion how may the souls partake in the actual water and the wafer; is any to be left aside for them? 

Some elements translate exactly throughout the subtle regions: water is water and the water here may be directly experienced by a discarnate soul as it is; and particularly when transfused, imbued and enlivened with Holy Virtue. The 'taking in' of substance is different however, as the 'drinking' is done as quick as thought and desire draws their ethereal lips to the goblet; and although weight for weight the measure remains the same, it can be possible that one hundred such souls have shared the cup - and we have seen this - all the while the living company are none the wiser.

This is the true realization and meaning of the ever-replenishing font. For within the Spiritual Worlds this phenomenon is current and expected: no well ever dries, no candle ever dies and the multiplying of fish and loaves is as a 'daily' occurrence. One might say that the principle of regeneration is known to the World because of this; only that the World knows death also, which does interrupt the Divine precipitator. 

As the elements carry over, they do so into every phase of cosmic echelon, and it is not by coincidence that characteristics within a man are often discerned in terms of the aspect of fire, of water, of air or of etherical portendance.

Musically there can be affinities with the individual elements, a melody may, according to its characteristic aspect, bring water, bring fire, and so forth, into the room; albeit invisibly, but nonetheless quite tangibly - from a spiritual point of view. In the instance of an interpretation which lends itself to a chaos of change (as with your Mahler) there becomes a conflict of elements as one is called forth and does mingle or argue upon another.

To some, the effects of this are quite exciting and one can actually translate where one begins and ends, and how the aspects are invoked, only to clash and disrupt upon themselves - it is very much alike to an audible game of paper, scissor, rock etc. However, such stimulation may be overdone and unproductive: insofar as the characteristic theme is only ever in part and unfulfilled. This may explain the fascination for such.

All music may be interpreted in this way - not to forget also that for those pieces which are characteristically of water, for example, the beings associated with the water are related too; whilst our corresponding elements within are awakened and responsive to the musical invocations.